Subject	I can't say exactly how NASA operates in your area, but
Posted by	spdrmn15 on August 15, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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In Reply To	Race Tracks posted by slicktt on August 15, 2013 at 07:54 AM
Message	NASA midwest(where I'm a member) has HPDE 1-4 1 is for complete beginners, and I recommend everyone starts there, all the way to 4 which is one step under competing whether it be time trails or wheel to wheel. If you sign up in HPDE 1 you could be in 4 by the end of the day provided your instructor says you can move up. The different levels are just meant to group similar skill levels together so you don't get a beginner out slowing down amateur racers. The HPDE groups are non competitive lapping sessions only, it's just meant to get you on the track to learn how to drive your car near it's limits. I've seen a lead follow once at a NASA event and that was the first session of the day for the HPDE 1 group just so they could see what lines they should be taking. Otherwise it's you and an instructor(1,2) or you by yourself(3,4) on the track doing some hot laps. I also want to add, a properly setup NA miata will give a stock GTR a run for it's money on a road course. I had a stock miata on street tires, and I was keeping up with race prepped vettes, and a GTR through the corners without breaking a sweat, the straights were another story. Honestly if I just wanted a fun cheap car to tear around a track I'd build a miata, super fun and easy to drive. "Face it, you just can't beat stupid." "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" "My favorite glue is Hopes and Dreams. " "My Z runs on gas and money."
Follow Ups	Race Tracks - slicktt 07:54:02 08/15/13 Mid Ohio is like 3 hours from Cincinnati. - dogpile 09:03:39 08/15/13 Re: Mid Ohio is like 3 hours from Cincinnati. - slicktt 09:36:45 08/15/13 Unfortunately no, that's what you have to do... - Jayru 09:44:31 08/15/13 Tell me about it. Also, *ante (n/m) - Nate (NoVA) 09:48:40 08/15/13 Whoops, stupid autocorrect. (n/m) - Jayru 10:03:56 08/15/13 Re: Unfortunately no, that's what you have to do... - slicktt 09:49:00 08/15/13 Definitely not that expensive. - Jayru 10:09:55 08/15/13 I think he means after all 4 levels are done. - bartz32tt 11:06:04 08/15/13 motorsport is expensive (n/m) - LJZTT 15:02:17 08/15/13 Its not open lapping, you need an instructor to get started. - Nate (NoVA) 09:52:58 08/15/13 Very true. After your unfortunate incident - Jayru 10:07:11 08/15/13 I think a lot of people immediate had that thought ;-) (n/m) - Nate (NoVA) 10:14:39 08/15/13 lol (n/m) - Jayru 10:16:04 08/15/13 If you want cheap seat time... - CameronSF 14:23:55 08/16/13 agreed on lemons - chicagozer 15:51:48 08/16/13 You expect to get out on track with other people - dogpile 10:01:04 08/15/13 Re: You expect to get out on track with other people - slicktt 10:09:15 08/15/13 I appreciate any knowledge and advice on getting into this - slicktt 10:12:34 08/15/13 There is no way around paying your dues on this one, sorry. - dogpile 10:49:44 08/15/13 I would say pushing the car hard on the street - Jayru 10:14:18 08/15/13 Quote for truth. (n/m) - Nate (NoVA) 10:16:26 08/15/13 Agree 100%. You cannot find the ultimate limit of a car - BigTDogg (MA) 13:38:01 08/15/13 Re: Agree 100%. You cannot find the ultimate limit of a car - slicktt 14:40:17 08/15/13 You're missing the point entirely... - Jayru 15:14:43 08/15/13 Yeah, borderline trolling. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:45:40 08/15/13 Re: Yeah, borderline trolling. - slicktt 16:39:03 08/15/13 If you want to break costs down that way, that's fine. - Nate (NoVA) 10:20:51 08/15/13 um.... track insurance doesn't work that way. - vorpalZ 10:21:58 08/15/13 Big second here. Its completely different. (n/m) - Nate (NoVA) 10:22:09 08/15/13 In addition to the ones Rob mentioned, Putnam Park - boileralum 09:22:44 08/15/13 Ah, that's the one in IN! Couldn't remember its name. (n/m) - dogpile 09:30:40 08/15/13 Re: Race Tracks - slicktt 10:29:55 08/15/13 You need to focus more on driving technique & less on speed - Jayru 10:35:01 08/15/13 Most HPDEs aren't lead/follow like you're thinking. - dogpile 10:55:06 08/15/13 Re: Most HPDEs aren't lead/follow like you're thinking. - slicktt 11:34:05 08/15/13 Not to discourage you, but you need to change that attitude - dogpile 12:10:53 08/15/13 Re: Not to discourage you, but you need to change that attitude - slicktt 13:46:16 08/15/13 Does sex sound fun if described in words with no prior - LJZTT 14:58:01 08/15/13 Re: Does sex sound fun if described in words with no prior - slicktt 16:40:40 08/15/13 only when looking back on the first time, after a while - LJZTT 19:20:41 08/15/13 Best analogy I've heard in a long time. Seriously. - dogpile 17:00:45 08/15/13 A few points: - Nate (NoVA) 10:56:38 08/15/13 Re: A few points: - slicktt 11:47:42 08/15/13 Re: Re: A few points: - ZonaZ 12:09:18 08/15/13 Re: Re: Re: A few points: - Nate (NoVA) 12:23:15 08/15/13 Re: Re: Re: A few points: - slicktt 12:24:13 08/15/13 You're really annoying me with your 100mph talk - fuzzymonkey 13:49:15 08/15/13 Re: You're really annoying me with your 100mph talk - slicktt 13:58:53 08/15/13 Speed is relative. It's scale that matters. - Ted (92TT) 12:13:39 08/17/13 you are going to feel so silly after your first track day - LJZTT 14:56:14 08/15/13 What autocross in Wilmington were you hitting 100mph at? - boileralum 12:58:50 08/15/13 Because it certainly wasn't the 7/21 event on your youtube, - boileralum 13:15:38 08/15/13 Re: Because it certainly wasn't the 7/21 event on your youtube, - slicktt 13:34:54 08/15/13 I really have my doubts about that. You certainly weren't - boileralum 14:03:50 08/15/13 Re: I really have my doubts about that. You certainly weren't - slicktt 14:09:39 08/15/13 I get bored dragracing, unless it is a private track rental - boileralum 14:28:41 08/15/13 Re: I get bored dragracing, unless it is a private track rental - slicktt 14:35:13 08/15/13 Re: Re: I get bored dragracing, unless it is a private track rental - Buckaroo Banzai 19:14:40 08/15/13 If you dont like NASA's stipulations or the hoops some - LJZTT 12:32:57 08/15/13 Re: If you dont like NASA's stipulations or the hoops some - slicktt 12:39:12 08/15/13 Typically the local Porsche or BMW club will have some - LJZTT 14:43:15 08/15/13 I can't say exactly how NASA operates in your area, but - spdrmn15 14:10:25 08/15/13 Re: I can't say exactly how NASA operates in your area, but - slicktt 14:21:34 08/15/13 A few more things to remember. - spdrmn15 16:36:15 08/15/13 Re: A few more things to remember. - slicktt 16:47:10 08/15/13
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